And he sees me and he just he does one of these and he goes Duffy like, boom, and I'm getting close, like, this guy is he's really freakin strong. Alex Ferrari 1:58:07 Troy Duffy 42:00 I want to say about one thing first, okay. And I don't know if you remember right. What know when you know, another another one would be know when to fight for something. That's what he shot. And there's from I understand there's a bidding war right there became a bidding war. Sometimes I can feel a guy in a room, you know, is looking at some producer over here is looking at me because they always come up afterwards. But we did it. Probably the shining but my buddy I would actually break that up into two categories. Alex Ferrari 1:19:02 I've never seen this happen and clearly, Harvey does not want this movie being made for obvious reasons, not because I want to becoming successful and you know, he's looking right and writing you off as a mistake and trying to make everyone forget that this even happened. I mean, I'm begging Japan. We have to put it through one or two more stages creatively. Like when nothing was moving. Yeah, Troy Duffy 1:08:13 Alex Ferrari 1:45:54 And that ended up being shaving my bacon and a lot of ways. I mean, that would be amazing. Alex Ferrari 1:54:57 But they're doing it in this way where there's belief and faith wrapped into it. What did we learn? Right? It's almost like a coach deals with players in a lot of ways. that was arguably one of the best answers to that question ever, sir. Good. And even when even when you go out like I'm coming to you from a man cave and in Old Town, Pasadena, right? have compared me to George Lucas there. CUT TO GET THE THING made. No, let's make it 10 Yeah, I'm not I'm so great with math. And I think I have a story here that's obviously effective. It's Oh my god. I don't care who you are. IFHTV: Indie Film Hustle TV Alex Ferrari 15:52 How am I clear to you? What do you want to see it if it wasn't for this guy? And last question, man, three of your favorite films of all time. I will I will help you a little bit now. What is the lesson that took you the longest to learn whether in the film business or in life, I swear, it's almost on every episode on my show, everyone's talking. I've seen this so many times with my friends. I'm like, I. Now. He's done a couple things. Yeah, that's that's what I'm scared. I go in there. I fell asleep in the only thing that I had bought with my newfound riches, which was a 68 Chevelle fire engine red with tinted windows bad ass car. He really killed it. That was the story but look man, but you have you had self realization and that is huge. And you can, you could be like that sometimes that's more cast and crew general leaving his minions, his soldiers in ways. And he goes, let me tell you something. And the guy is a legend ours was and he knows great directors and you know, at the bar that night after day one, if he's going, Hey, I just signed off on you with everyone. But knowing who they are really being able to talk with them and see how they feel, and really listen, and really respond, because sometimes it doesn't go immediately sets up a red flag, you know, like, there was this time where I'm talking to foe and he goes, he goes, I feel like I should dance in this scene. I think they took 11 Oscars, so it was a lot and all that. Troy Duffy 20:47 Troy Duffy 19:41 I have seen them talk to them nothing. And I remember coming by I'm like, Whoa, what's going on? And Dean was like thanks, Charlie icon Gilgo most embarrassing goddamn thing. Didn't even recruit. Alex Ferrari 57:35 And it was supposed to be you know, not not what it ended up being supposed to be like this story. I'd like to welcome to the show. I know. And they were bros, you know, so we had when I would come out of the wherever I was, and Mark would come out of the bushes literally with the camera. This is an indie that i i always champion and it doesn't get talked about a lot. Nil by muoth. I had a friend you know, that worked in the in the movie business, you know, a huge surprise being here. Troy Duffy 1:15:30 You'll be like, oh god, oh god. It is. What turnaround is, is that you put it like a yard sale, you put it back out for sale, you know the script that was highly desirable by the industry. A lot was written about him. Troy Duffy 32:06 The the problem, the problem with getting it done lies in in the scheduling, and availability. I'm sure I forgot a bunch of stuff in the towel, you know, but it was, you know, my advice for anybody that this half for the three people this is going to happen to over the next 20 years. Unknown Speaker 17:51 We're bouncing off the damn walls in here. This guy's explained to this girl. Alex Ferrari 1:58:46 We like we have been talking for half an hour. And it was that year that Miramax swept the Oscars. Like I can't even I can't even think about handshakes.